When Nothing
Changes Under The Sun was released, did you expect
that it would sale as well as it did? What was you reaction
back then?
Andy: I had no expectations when Nothing
Changes... was released; I hoped it would sell
enough for me to be able to write another one, which
has been the case. Initial reaction was great from the
press but it didn’t sell much early on, it was
only after the re-release in August 2001 that it began
to do well. At first I was delighted that it actually
got released but I was happy with how it was received.
How did the
band come together?
Andy: It’s a mixture of old and new friends.
Chris and Karl, acoustic and bass, are old friends who
I’ve been in many bands with over the years. I
met Jon (drums) through Ollie at Memphis and Ty was
put in touch with me when I was looking for a vocalist.
The newest member is Mark on keys.
You still write
most of the tracks, with Tahita contributing to the
vocal tracks. How does working as a six-piece band has
affected the way you work?
Andy: As I mentioned earlier having the live
band in place has been in the back of my mind when writing
Man Mountain, but I still basically did what
I wanted. The direction I’ve taken was always
where I wanted to go, as soon as I finished Nothing
Changes… I knew how I wanted Man Mountain
to sound.
Tahita, what
is your musical background? How did you discover you
could sing?
Tahita: I thought that everyone could sing.
Then I joined a school choir during my teens and how
people reacted to my voice within the choir convinced
me that maybe my voice was something special. I got
into music as a teenager and I think I’ve been
through as many phases as the next person. I”ve
always loved music that moves you – literally
– like the rap of the late 80s – NWA, Public
Enemy, or that really visceral punk of the early 70s,
like Stooges and MC5, that makes you want to go out
and scream in the streets - and the bands that I’ve
founded in the past have reflected that. Its been amazing
to do this more reflective music, because I’m
not strictly speaking from that background.
Although you
were born in London, you grew up in Europe and the US.
Where did you live, and do you think this has had an
influence on your musical influences?
Tahita: I lived all over Europe for short periods
– my mother liked moving around. We spent some
time in Egypt and I think that influenced my way of
thinking about other cultures. In the US, we lived in
New York for almost two years and I watched a lot of
MTV and old musicals – there’s definitely
a pop sensibility about what I do, so I suppose all
that must have seeped in somewhere.
Have you been
involved with other project before joining Blue States?
Tahita: Yes, but unfortunately none of it made
it to the streets for various reasons. I did some stuff
with Jadell who was on Ultimate Dilemma and Sophisticuts
(which became Tru – thoughts) – and I’ve
been in various bands. Alphawave was a project I started
in Brighton with some friends during uni and that was
the last time I was the driving force creatively. Our
style was very Noow Yourk Punk – we would have
been very in now, if we hadn’t imploded messily.
Had you heard
of Blue States before? If yes, what was your opinion
on Nothing Changes Under The Sun?
Tahita: Yes. I had heard Nothing Changes...
and it was on my shopping list. It’s a great album.
Of course, now many groups that came after Andy have
done albums that seem to have similar influences –
the cinematic sound, etc but it was a unique nugget
at the time. Lots of people I knew had discovered for
themselves it and really rated it as a weekend favourite.
So I was over the moon when Andy decided he wanted to
work with me.
How did you
meet Andy, and how did the idea of working together
come up?
Tahita: Working with Andy came up through friends
of friends. He was looking for singers and I was looking
for collaborators. Snap!!! Luckily for us, we hit it
off immediately and working together was fairly easy,
as well as very rewarding. Its very important to feel
comfortable with creative partners and I think we do
understand each other creatively speaking. We have similar
reference points.
What was it
like to integrate a project that already existed? Did
you find it easy to find your place within the band?
Tahita: When I joined, Blue States only had
two members of their original line up. Jon Chandler
(Drums) and Karl Hagar (Bass) were also new boys and
so really we all carved out our places with relative
ease. No-one knew what to expect so anything that worked
was good… As far as Andy and I writing together
is concerned, Andy was pretty easy-going and I think
I am too. We know what we like and we know what we don’t
like and thankfully, those things correspond for the
most part.
Are the roles
in Blue States well established, especially with the
writing and composing, or are the other member also
involved in the creative process?
Tahita: Its Andy’s baby, though I think
in the past other people have brought ideas in that
Andy has liked and so they have been used. However,
on Man Mountain, Jon brought a lot to the drum
tracks. As far as melodies and lyrics are concerned,
I think Andy was happy for me to bash things out and
then give an opinion or advice on how things might progress,
which was important. It would have been much more difficult
with someone dictating what every note and word should
be.
Andy: I wrote all of Man Mountain,
except the vocal tracks, which Ty wrote the lyrics and
vocal lines, and Jon who played drums on most of the
album. The live band is separate from the studio, but
the two things run parallel.
This album was
also for you the opportunity to write some string arrangements.
How did you approach this? Was it a big challenge?
Andy: It was the biggest thrill for me on this
album, the chance to work and arrange strings. When
I started writing the album I had to enthuse for it,
it was like I was waiting for something to click to
give me that desire. After my first session with the
strings it gave me the impetus to get my head down.
To hear the strings playing over my tracks was a great
thrill and one that has given me the taste for more.
The way I approached it was to basically not worry about
the imperfections of my score just to continue to write
the melodies I like, as I knew they would translate
well to live strings. It was a challenge but one that
was one of the most rewarding aspects about this album.
What difference
did it make to write more for vocal tracks than on the
first album?
Andy: Well I don’t think the way I write
has changed between albums, I always write in a traditional
song structure. Tracks on Nothing Changes…
were very verse, chorus based and one criticism was
that they sounded like instrumental tracks that were
written for vocals. So writing tracks for vocals was
fairly easy
Blue States
is closely assimilated to the electronic scene, although
the music is largely created from real instruments.
Does it annoy you a bit?
Andy: A little bit, but I can understand it
as Nothing Changes... is coming from a more
electronica angle than Man Mountain. Hopefully
the new album will be seen in a slightly broader sense
and not just confined to electronic music
Following the
release of Nothing Changes Under The Sun, there
has been a series of very successful “chill out”
bands, with the likes of Zero 7 and Bent possibly stilling
the highlights a bit. How did you react to this, and
do you feel Blue States is on the same wavelength as
these bands?
Andy: I don’t have anything in common
with Zero 7, I’ve never met them and their best
song is a cover anyway. I like Bent though.
I recently played
your album to friends who’d never heard of Blue
States before, and their reaction was that “it
sounded a bit like Zero 7”. How do you react to
people thinking like that when you were actually there
first?
Andy: It pisses me off.
What inspires
you to write music?
Andy: Listening to other music really. When
I hear a track that blows me away it inspires me to
try and write a better song.
Tahita: With Blue States, it’s
always the music. Whatever the mood seems to be for
any piece, that’s the inspiration for the track.
Once I come up with a melody, certain syllables and
vowels sounds seem to work and coupled with the overall
mood that dictates what the track is about. Stylistically
Blue States was already well realised and it wouldn’t
have worked for someone to come in and try to impose
something entirely different on it. Its always romantic
and reflective and I hope my lyrics express that.
What are your
influences?
Andy: Musically people like Quincy Jones, David
Axelrod, Scott Walker the big writers and producers
and arrangers. Films also influence me, like Papillon
with its real life tragedy, Where Eagles Dare
with its breathless action, and Turner & Hooch
with Tom Hanks and a funny dog.
You told me
at the end of the London gig that you could play anywhere
and not feel too nervous, but when you play in London,
it always is a nerve-wracking experience. How do you
explain this?
Andy: There’s something about a London
audience that make me nervous, probably because you
have to work harder to impress them. You really have
to be at your best to get a good response.
Tahita: It’s home turf, your
mates have turned up and there are always people needing
to be impressed. Knowing that it’s difficult to
switch off and enjoy yourself. London audiences are
notoriously bad at reacting well to anything that hasn’t
been pre-certified as ‘cool’ by the style
mags and weekly newspapers. Elsewhere people are more
open-minded to begin with and less self-conscious so
they get into things and want to be involved. I have
memories of banging a tambourine on some girls bum,
when she jumped behind the monitors at a gig we played
in Memphis. I don’t think a Londoner would have
been so abandoned.
When did you
sing with Blue States for the first time?
Tahita: Last May at Cargo. It was the first
gig with the new line up including me and it was nerve-wracking.
What was the reaction of the audience then?
Tahita: They were very warm (as they were a
London audience I supposed I have just contradicted
myself), they seemed to enjoy it. They yelled for an
encore, but we didn’t have one.
Londoners are
known for their general apathy regarding gigs and events.
Do you feel they are harder to attract because there
is so much on offer there?
Andy: I think people will turn up in London,
it’s just whether they’ve turned up to slag
it off or enjoy it.
After the gig,
we were talking about Elios Therepia, with
which you closed the show, and you said that it has
become something of a cliché. What did you mean
by that?
Andy: It’s a cliché because it’s
our last song and we rock it up. It always goes down
well, its kind of a different track live from Nothing
Changes... now.
You also played
Glastonbury recently. What was it like?
Andy: It was good. We didn’t have the
best slot and we had a few technical problems but enjoyed
it. It was the first time we played there so it was
a great thrill and we all had a laugh, but we played
in Serbia a week later at a festival which was infantly
better than Glasto. Ten thousand Serbians going nuts
for us, glorious.
Being behind
the mic on stage, you are obviously the focal point
more than any of the guys. Is it a big responsibility
for you?
Tahita: It’s a big responsibility because
the performance has to be right for the band and to
a certain extent, I have to help the audience relax
and enjoy the gig, more than the others who can concentrate
on playing more. You can’t be pogoing and winding
up the audience fronting a down tempo outfit. Things
have to be bit more sultry, but I enjoy sultry and from
what people tell me after gigs, the audience that comes
to see Blue States enjoys it too.
Some of the
compositions, either on the first album or on Man
Mountain have got a bit of a Cocteau Twins edge,
especially Spit & Soar on Nothing Changes...
and What We’ve Won on the new album.
Were you a fan?
Andy: Yeah a few people said that about What
We’ve Won, it wasn’t a conscious thing
though. I was listening to Heaven Or Las Vegas
the other day, still sounds great.
As well as leading
Blue States, you also carry a lot of remix duties. Are
you quite choosy in the tracks you decide to remix?
What does incite you to rework a track?
Andy: I’m becoming more choosy as I go
along. It’s down to whether I like the track or
artist and whether I can see myself being able to a
good job. Something like Future Sound of London’s
Papa New Guinea was a real pleasure as the
track was originally such a favourite of mine. I was
desperate to do it and would have done it for free.
Apart from the
band, is there anyone you would like to collaborate
on a project with, either as Blue States, or completely
separately?
Andy: I would love to work with Kurt Wagner
from Lambchop.
You live in
Brighton. Do you feel that London is too mad a place
to live?
Andy: Not really. The only thing mad thing
that pisses me off about London is the travelling. You
can go anywhere in the world and the trains and busses
are cheap, basic but on time. We seem incapable of running
any public transport to any degree of competence.
Was that ever
a handicap to get recognised, or rather more of an advantage?
Andy: Probably an advantage because there are
so many things going on in London they often get swallowed
up. Brighton is doing fairly well at the moment for
music, so it’s a been a benefit to be associated
with it.
Man Mountain
is conjointly released by Memphis Industries and XL
Recordings. How did this happen and what was your reaction?
Andy: XL had always expressed an interest since
Nothing Changes... and when were in the US on tour I
found out they were going to offer us a deal. It’s
great for me because the increased exposure with XL
is obviously going to be good for the album, while I
still get to deal with Memphis. It means the day to
day running of Blue States stays the same, which is
good for me as a step up is made easier for me.
How does it
feel to be part of such a big label, alongside artists
as diverse as The Prodigy, Basement Jaxx, Badly Drawn
Boy or the White Stripes?
Andy: Delighted to be on a label that has such
a diverse roster. They have a level of respect for what
they do with taking such different artists and making
them a success in their own right. XL feels like the
right place for Blue States
Your compositions
all have a cinematic feel. Would you like to work on
a soundtrack? Any particular type of film?
Andy: Yes please. I would love to work on a
soundtrack; it’s something of an ambition. If
I was to get the chance it would either be a gritty
European thriller, a big Lawrence Of Arabia
type epic, or a hilarious dog based comedy like say…Turner
& Hooch, K-9, or to a lesser extent
the disappointing Beethoven.
Many of your
tracks have feature in numerous lounge and chill out
compilations. Have you at any moment feared that this
would dilute the impact of your music by associating
it with other, sometimes less talented, bands and artists?
Andy: Yes. Being on a compilation album next
to Dido is worrying, but we’re starting to turn
a few things down now. I’ve been on some really
good ones, but I have cringed at some of the shit ones.
What kind of
music do you like to listen to when you’re at
home or on tour?
Andy: Anything really, a bit of hip-hop, soul,
acoustic stuff, real mixture really. There are varied
musical tastes in the live band so there is a good range
of stuff that gets listened to on tour, and some that
gets booed off, which is mostly when I put on Pink Floyd.
Heathens.
Being the only
female member of the band, is it always easy to make
yourself heard?
Tahita: Yes. Unless they’re
talking about football.
Email
interview July 2002.
Thank you to Andy, Tahita and Lauren.