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JACKSON & HIS COMPUTER BAND

Paris-based Jackson Fougeraud is currently being tipped as one of the major talent to have come out recently. With a devastatingly clever and infectious first album, Smash, which follows a series of promising EPs, he explores a wide range of genres, ranging from classic techno to funk and electro. Here, he talks about how Smash was patiently assembled, working with his mother and four-year-old niece and creating definitive music.

Jackson, what have you been up to today?
Went out on the train, walked, had lunch… I am just checking my emails now, which is going to take me the whole afternoon probably. Like every week…

With Smash just released, you must be quite in demand. How do you deal with the media attention, and have you been trying to find out what the press is saying about the album or are you ignoring it all?
I don’t want to be in this position like “oh it’s a nightmare” as I’ve mainly been chatting with people passionate about music and interested in what I do. There are worse jobs. I did quickly go through what’s been written on the album on the Internet. It’s fun, especially the bad stuff. I’m pretty laidback about it as I’ve had good response from people that are important to me. I’m also pretty sure that the most important thing with a record is how it works in the long run. It took me a while to like some awesome records. So, if my record’s crap, everybody will forget about it.

Can you tell me about your background? Where do you come from, how did you start playing music…
I started playing drums as a teenage in a band. I was very into rock, funk and gradually got swallowed by the rave gabba thing when I was 15. My mom had an Atari computer, so I started doing some tracks with it and met this friend of my older sister who was just starting a new label called Pumpking. I did two EPs with them. They showed me how to produce and around the same time, I starting using a Roland 909 drum machine, and a 303, a Moog synthesizer and a sampler…

There are loads of different styles and ambiences on your album, ranging from funk to techno to electro... Who/what are your main influences?
Herbie Hancock, Funkadelic, Hendrix, and everything that I hear, from the background noises in a gas station to a Mario Bava vampire movie soundtrack.

The press release mentioned that it took you about four years to complete the album, and that you spent a lot of time re-recording tracks. How did you work on it?
With no proper method, trying to reach the most dramatic tension or psychedelic elasticity. Starting from synth lines or chaotic MP3 collages. I lost complete notion of time doing this, I didn’t really care. My entourage was freaking out.

You originally released music on French imprint Sound Of Barclay. How did you come to work with Warp for the album?
Piers Martin (Vice magazine) sent me an email mentioning the possibility to work with them. I was overjoyed.

The French Touch has helped putting the focus on a new breed of French musicians at the end of the nineties, with people like Daft Punk, Air, Etienne De Crecy and Alex Gopher leading the way. Since, the scene over there has become a lot wider, with a strong underground current, with labels such as Active Suspension or Monopsone for instance releasing some very interesting music. How do you think French electronic music has evolved in the last few years?
I don’t pay attention to music this way, and I really shut down while working on the record. I was just watching MTV and listening to the radio.

You’ve enrolled part of your family on Smash, including your mother, folk singer Paula Moore, and your four-year-old niece. How did you get the idea of getting them to participate, and how did they react?
My mom was a little bit nervous, but she ended up liking it. I think she likes some of my music. It was very easy for me this way, very natural, and it seemed pretty cool. It was trickier with my niece. I had to barter with her, promising her soda so she would say what I wanted her to say. I had to record three or four words at a time.

You’ve also worked with Mike Ladd on one track. How did you meet, and how did the idea of working together come up?
I sent him some music after I’d heard his Welcome To The Afterfuture album. I just love his epic vibe and his open approach of music.

How do you approach collaborations as opposed to your tracks? Is the process very different?
Working with Mike was very easy as we understood and respected each other a lot. He’s very fast, and it was very easy adapting to what he was doing.

Are you intending to work with other people in the future, and if yes, is there anyone in particular you would want to work with?
I’m not in a hurry to work with vocal artists, I feel like there’s a lot to do with instrumental music. It’s a very challenging form. I’m using production as a writing tool; it gives a lot of options.

You’ve produced remixes for an incredible variety of people, ranging from Femi Kuti to Air and Vanessa Paradis to Jean Jacques Perrey and Luke Vibert. How do you choose to remix a particular track or artist?
It depends on my need of the moment. Artistic, financial… I’m not so exited about doing remixes. You have to deal with expectations and you’re supposed to do something precise, it doesn’t really fit with what I want to do. I started doing remixes because I wanted to understand how a track was made, which meant listening to the different tracks separately.

No-one seems to have given a go at remixing your music yet. Why do you think this is?
Because I want things to be definitive. I’m not for this “global material”

I have seen your music compared to that of Prefuse 73, with some articles saying you apply a similar process to electronic music as Scott Herren does with hip-hop. Do you think this is a fair assessment of your work?
I don’t expect articles to be fair. I like Prefuse 73. I see the link in a technical way. It’s more unfair for Todd Edwards, as everyone seems to have forgotten the role he played in this chopped up sampling thing. We’re just talking technique in these cases… There’s more to records than that I think.

You are about to play a few live dates. What can people expect to see, and will it be very different to the album?
New music, work in progress… I’m growing as I tour. There are little bits of the album in the live show. It’s a pretty low profile laptop experience. It’s super new for me, very different from the studio rat work I did with Smash.

In addition to making your own music, you also regularly DJ. What are your sets like? What do you tend to play?
I kind of gave up with that as it’s something I don’t control. The sets I’ve done were super messy. A few of them went OK, but I never managed to repeat them. Going from the Ronettes to Gabba to DJ Assault to Cameo… Hard to handle and to keep the energy of the crowd going. Some people are very talented with this…

You are said to already be working on the follow up to Smash. Do you have a clear idea of what you want it to sound like yet?
It’s growing… I have lots of ideas but I still don’t know where I’m going in general, witch is fine for me. I want to keep it out of any particular direction.

How did you see your music evolve in the next few years? You are quoted on the press release for Smash saying that you want to make four totally amazing albums. Then what?
I said that because I had no idea what to say. I hope I‘ll still be obsessed with giving meaning to the contradictions of individuals when I’m 80. If not, than I’d love to make music for people that live in peaceful sunny areas.

Once you’ve finished this interview, what is next in your diary?
Finish deleting spam emails and finish going through the rest, and then do some music tonight hopefully.

Email interview October 2005
Thank you to Jackson and Steve

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