You
started Blue States as a solo project, but was it always meant to be a
band or did you feel, after the first album that you needed to explore
other ways of working?
Andy: The live band
just happened really. At first it was put together because I kept being
offered gigs, there was no thought about a live band when I started out.
I hadn’t played live myself for about three years but I had always played
in bands so it felt natural to tread the boards again. The difference in
Man
Mountain is that I was writing an album with the thought of playing
it live, which probably did influence the music in some way.
Your first EP was also
the first record released by Memphis Industries. How did you get to work
with them?
Andy: I was looking
to send out a few demos to labels and someone told me about a new label
being set up. I sent a tape to Memphis and from that they asked me to do
a couple of EP’s and then the album. I signed with them in 1998 and the
rest is history.
When
Nothing Changes Under The Sun was released, did you expect that
it would sale as well as it did? What was you reaction back then?
Andy: I had no expectations
when Nothing Changes... was released; I hoped it would sell enough
for me to be able to write another one, which has been the case. Initial
reaction was great from the press but it didn’t sell much early on, it
was only after the re-release in August 2001 that it began to do well.
At first I was delighted that it actually got released but I was happy
with how it was received.
How did the band come
together?
Andy: It’s a mixture
of old and new friends. Chris and Karl, acoustic and bass, are old friends
who I’ve been in many bands with over the years. I met Jon (drums) through
Ollie at Memphis and Ty was put in touch with me when I was looking for
a vocalist. The newest member is Mark on keys.
You still write most of
the tracks, with Tahita contributing to the vocal tracks. How does working
as a six-piece band has affected the way you work?
Andy: As I mentioned
earlier having the live band in place has been in the back of my mind when
writing Man Mountain, but I still basically did what I wanted. The
direction I’ve taken was always where I wanted to go, as soon as I finished
Nothing
Changes… I knew how I wanted Man Mountain to sound.
Tahita, what is your musical
background? How did you discover you could sing?
Tahita: I thought
that everyone could sing. Then I joined a school choir during my teens
and how people reacted to my voice within the choir convinced me that maybe
my voice was something special. I got into music as a teenager and I think
I’ve been through as many phases as the next person. I”ve always loved
music that moves you – literally – like the rap of the late 80s – NWA,
Public Enemy, or that really visceral punk of the early 70s, like Stooges
and MC5, that makes you want to go out and scream in the streets - and
the bands that I’ve founded in the past have reflected that. Its
been amazing to do this more reflective music, because I’m not strictly
speaking from that background.
Although you were born
in London, you grew up in Europe and the US. Where did you live, and do
you think this has had an influence on your musical influences?
Tahita: I lived all
over Europe for short periods – my mother liked moving around. We spent
some time in Egypt and I think that influenced my way of thinking about
other cultures. In the US, we lived in New York for almost two years and
I watched a lot of MTV and old musicals – there’s definitely a pop sensibility
about what I do, so I suppose all that must have seeped in somewhere.
Have you been involved
with other project before joining Blue States?
Tahita: Yes, but
unfortunately none of it made it to the streets for various reasons. I
did some stuff with Jadell who was on Ultimate Dilemma and Sophisticuts
(which became Tru – thoughts) – and I’ve been in various bands. Alphawave
was a project I started in Brighton with some friends during uni and that
was the last time I was the driving force creatively. Our style was very
Noow Yourk Punk – we would have been very in now, if we hadn’t imploded
messily.
Had you heard of Blue
States before? If yes, what was your opinion on Nothing Changes Under
The Sun?
Tahita: Yes. I had
heard Nothing Changes and it was on my shopping list. It’s a great album.
Of course, now many groups that came after Andy have done albums that seem
to have similar influences – the cinematic sound, etc but it was a unique
nugget at the time. Lots of people I knew had discovered for themselves
it and really rated it as a weekend favourite. So I was over the moon when
Andy decided he wanted to work with me.
How did you meet Andy,
and how did the idea of working together come up?
Tahita: Working with
Andy came up through friends of friends. He was looking for singers and
I was looking for collaborators. Snap!!! Luckily for us, we hit it off
immediately and working together was fairly easy, as well as very rewarding.
Its very important to feel comfortable with creative partners and I think
we do understand each other creatively speaking. We have similar reference
points.
What
was it like to integrate a project that already existed? Did you find it
easy to find your place within the band?
Tahita: When I joined,
Blue States only had two members of their original line up. Jon Chandler
(Drums) and Karl Hagar (Bass) were also new boys and so really we all carved
out our places with relative ease. No-one knew what to expect so anything
that worked was good… As far as Andy and I writing together is concerned,
Andy was pretty easy-going and I think I am too. We know what we like and
we know what we don’t like and thankfully, those things correspond for
the most part.
Are the roles in Blue
States well established, especially with the writing and composing, or
are the other member also involved in the creative process?
Tahita: Its Andy’s
baby, though I think in the past other people have brought ideas in that
Andy has liked and so they have been used. However, on Man Mountain,
Jon brought a lot to the drum tracks. As far as melodies and lyrics are
concerned, I think Andy was happy for me to bash things out and then give
an opinion or advice on how things might progress, which was important.
It would have been much more difficult with someone dictating what every
note and word should be.
Andy: I wrote all
of Man Mountain, except the vocal tracks, which Ty wrote the lyrics
and vocal lines, and Jon who played drums on most of the album. The live
band is separate from the studio, but the two things run parallel.
This album was also for
you the opportunity to write some string arrangements. How did you approach
this? Was it a big challenge?
Andy: It was the
biggest thrill for me on this album, the chance to work and arrange strings.
When I started writing the album I had to enthuse for it, it was like I
was waiting for something to click to give me that desire. After my first
session with the strings it gave me the impetus to get my head down. To
hear the strings playing over my tracks was a great thrill and one that
has given me the taste for more. The way I approached it was to basically
not worry about the imperfections of my score just to continue to write
the melodies I like, as I knew they would translate well to live strings.
It was a challenge but one that was one of the most rewarding aspects about
this album.
What difference did it
make to write more for vocal tracks than on the first album?
Andy: Well I don’t
think the way I write has changed between albums, I always write in a traditional
song structure. Tracks on Nothing Changes… were very verse, chorus
based and one criticism was that they sounded like instrumental tracks
that were written for vocals. So writing tracks for vocals was fairly easy
Blue States is closely
assimilated to the electronic scene, although the music is largely created
from real instruments. Does it annoy you a bit?
Andy: A little bit,
but I can understand it as Nothing Changes... is coming from a more
electronica angle than Man Mountain. Hopefully the new album will
be seen in a slightly broader sense and not just confined to electronic
music
Following the release
of Nothing Changes Under The Sun, there has been a series of very
successful “chill out” bands, with the likes of Zero 7 and Bent possibly
stilling the highlights a bit. How did you react to this, and do you feel
Blue States is on the same wavelength as these bands?
Andy: I don’t have
anything in common Zero 7, I’ve never met them and their best song is a
cover anyway. I like Bent though.
I recently played your
album to friends who’d never heard of Blue States before, and their reaction
was that “it sounded a bit like Zero 7”. How do you react to people thinking
like that when you were actually there first?
Andy: It pisses me
off.
Had you heard of Blue
States before? If yes, what was your opinion on Nothing Changes Under
The Sun?
Tahita: Yes. I had
heard Nothing Changes... and it was on my shopping list. It’s a
great album. Of course, now many groups that came after Andy have done
albums that seem to have similar influences – the cinematic sound, etc
but it was a unique nugget at the time. Lots of people I knew had discovered
for themselves it and really rated it as a weekend favourite. So I was
over the moon when Andy decided he wanted to work with me.
What inspires you to write
music?
Andy: Listening to
other music really. When I hear a track that blows me away it inspires
me to try and write a better song.
Tahita: With Blue
States, it’s always the music. Whatever the mood seems to be for any piece,
that’s the inspiration for the track. Once I come up with a melody, certain
syllables and vowels sounds seem to work and coupled with the overall mood
that dictates what the track is about. Stylistically Blue States was already
well realised and it wouldn’t have worked for someone to come in and try
to impose something entirely different on it. Its always romantic and reflective
and I hope my lyrics express that.
What are your influences?
Andy: Musically people
like Quincy Jones, David Axelrod, Scott Walker the big writers and producers
and arrangers. Films also influence me, like Papillon with its real
life tragedy, Where Eagles Dare with its breathless action, and
Turner
& Hooch with Tom Hanks and a funny dog.
You told me at the end
of the London gig that you could play anywhere and not feel too nervous,
but when you play in London, it always is a nerve-wracking experience.
How do you explain this?
Andy: There’s something
about a London audience that make me nervous, probably because you have
to work harder to impress them. You really have to be at your best to get
a good response.
Tahita: It’s Home
turf, your mates have turned up and there are always people needing to
be impressed. Knowing that it’s difficult to switch off and enjoy yourself.
London audiences are notoriously bad at reacting well to anything that
hasn’t been pre-certified as ‘cool’ by the style mags and weekly newspapers.
Elsewhere people are more open-minded to begin with and less self-conscious
so they get into things and want to be involved. I have memories of banging
a tambourine on some girls bum, when she jumped behind the monitors at
a gig we played in Memphis. I don’t think a Londoner would have been so
abandoned.
When did you sing with
Blue States for the first time?
Tahita: Last May
at Cargo. It was the first gig with the new line up including me and it
was nerve-wracking.
What was the reaction
of the audience then?
Tahita: They were
very warm (as they were a London audience I supposed I have just contradicted
myself), they seemed to enjoy it. They yelled for an encore, but we didn’t
have one.
Londoners are known for
their general apathy regarding gigs and events. Do you feel they are harder
to attract because there is so much on offer there?
Andy: I think people
will turn up in London, it’s just whether they’ve turned up to slag it
off or enjoy it.
After the gig, we were
talking about Elios Therepia, with which you closed the show, and
you said that it has become something of a cliché. What did you
mean by that?
Andy: It’s a cliché
because it’s our last song and we rock it up. It always goes down well,
its kind of a different track live from Nothing Changes... now.
You also played Glastonbury
recently. What was it like?
Andy: It was good.
We didn’t have the best slot and we had a few technical problems but enjoyed
it. It was the first time we played there so it was a great thrill and
we all had a laugh, but we played in Serbia a week later at a festival
which was infantly better than Glasto. Ten thousand Serbians going nuts
for us, glorious.
Being behind the mic on
stage, you are obviously the focal point more than any of the guys. Is
it a big responsibility for you?
Tahita: It’s a big
responsibility because the performance has to be right for the band and
to a certain extent, I have to help the audience relax and enjoy the gig,
more than the other who can concentrate on playing more. You can’t be pogoing
and winding up the audience fronting a down tempo outfit. Things have to
be bit more sultry, but I enjoy sultry and from what people tell me after
gigs, the audience that comes to see Blue States enjoys it too.
Some of the compositions,
either on the first album or on Man Mountain have got a bit of a
Cocteau Twins edge, especially Spit & Soar on Nothing Changes...
and What We’ve Won on the new album. Were you a fan?
Andy: Yeah a few
people said that about What We’ve Won, it wasn’t a conscious thing
though. I was listening to Heaven Or Las Vegas the other day, still
sounds great.
As well as leading Blue
States, you also carry a lot of remix duties. Are you quite choosy in the
tracks you decide to remix? What does incite you to rework a track?
Andy: I’m becoming
more choosy as I go along. It’s down to whether I like the track or artist
and whether I can see myself being able to a good job. Something like Future
Sound of London’s Papa New Guinea was a real pleasure as the track
was originally such a favourite of mine. I was desperate to do it and would
have done it for free.
Apart from the band, is
there anyone you would like to collaborate on a project with, either as
Blue States, or completely separately?
Andy: I would love
to work with Kurt Wagner from Lambchop.
You live in Brighton.
Do you feel that London is too mad a place to live?
Andy: Not really.
The only thing mad thing that pisses me off about London is the travelling.
You can go anywhere in the world and the trains and busses are cheap, basic
but on time. We seem incapable of running any public transport to any degree
of competence.
Was that ever a handicap
to get recognised, or rather more of an advantage?
Andy: Probably an
advantage because there are so many things going on in London they often
get swallowed up. Brighton is doing fairly well at the moment for music,
so it’s a been a benefit to be associated with it.
Man Mountain is
conjointly released by Memphis Industries and XL Recordings. How did this
happen and what was your reaction?
Andy:
XL had always expressed an interest since Nothing Changes...
and when were in the US on tour I found out they were going to offer us
a deal. It’s great for me because the increased exposure with XL is obviously
going to be good for the album, while I still get to deal with Memphis.
It means the day to day running of Blue States stays the same, which is
good for me as a step up is made easier for me.
How does it feel to be
part of such a big label, alongside artists as diverse as The Prodigy,
Basement Jaxx, Badly Drawn Boy or the White Stripes?
Andy: Delighted to
be on a label that has such a diverse roster. They have a level of respect
for what they do with taking such different artists and making them a success
in their own right. XL feels like the right place for Blue States
Your compositions all
have a cinematic feel. Would you like to work on a soundtrack? Any particular
type of film?
Andy: Yes please.
I would love to work on a soundtrack; it’s something of an ambition. If
I was to get the chance it would either be a gritty European thriller,
a big Lawrence Of Arabia type epic, or a hilarious dog based comedy
like say…Turner & Hooch, K-9, or to a lesser extent the
disappointing Beethoven.
Many of your tracks have
feature in numerous lounge and chill out compilations. Have you at any
moment feared that this would dilute the impact of your music by associating
it with other, sometimes less talented, bands and artists?
Andy: Yes. Being
on a compilation album next to Dido is worrying, but we’re starting to
turn a few things down now. I’ve been on some really good ones, but I have
cringed at some of the shit ones.
What kind of music do
you like to listen to when you’re at home or on tour?
Andy: Anything really,
a bit of hip-hop, soul, acoustic stuff, real mixture really. There are
varied musical tastes in the live band so there is a good range of stuff
that gets listened to on tour, and some that gets booed off, which is mostly
when I put on Pink Floyd. Heathens.
Being the only female
member of the band, is it always easy to make yourself heard?
Yes. Unless they’re talking
about football.
For more information on
Blue States, visit the Blue
States, Memphis
Indutries and XL
Recordings web sites.
Thank you to Andy, Tahita
and Lauren.
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